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Monday, August 28, 2006

Gender Roles

In a recent post Anar refers to an article in Forbes magazine on Careers and Marriage. The male writer cites various scientific studies to support statements such as "you [men] will be more unhappy if they [women] make more money than you", "your [the man's] house will be dirtier" and "you are more likely to fall ill". The author clearly is prejudiced by the traditional model of gender roles, where women stay at home and raise children while men work and make money.

If we (men in particular) are to open our minds just slightly we will see that these arguments are all based on the comfort of men and completely disregards the independence of women. A little bit of google search will provide a wealth of information from research in anthropological and social sciences that will support an alternative model for a family where both men and women can have a career.

A discussion on gender roles in wikipedia points out that "there has been a perception of Western culture, in recent times, that the female gender role is dichotomized into either being a "stay at home-mother" or a "career woman". In reality, women usually face a double burden: The need to balance job and child care deprives women of spare time. Whereas the majority of men with university educations have a career as well as a family, only 50 percent of academic women have children."

The situation (that women face the double burden) arises primarily because of our conditoning that women cannot balance career and family. No matter how educated we are, we (men and women) are heavily conditioned to think that balancing both is impossible. The situation will never arise if for a moment men start to think that they are equally responsible in family roles and the average woman is likely to have similar ambitions and aspirations of independence just like a man does. Agreed, it is the woman who has to get the melon out of the water hose, and feed the baby. But men can begin to assume a greater role in the family and give women the much needed time to pursue their interests.

The summary of a recent text book on this subject refutes many common arguments that are made to keep women to their traditional role. If you do click on the link above pay particular attention to the first two statments in the summary.

Women have demonstrated repeatedly that they are capable of many feats in fields that men have dominated. It is ultimately upto us (men) to keep an open mind and embrace the feats that our women are capable of. Instead of feeling threatened by their success I think we should laud their efforts and encourage them to pursue their interests. How fair is it to cage a bird and make it misearable so that we can see it everyday to satisfy our self-interests? How would a man feel if he was the bird who is in that cage?

Comments?

18 Comments:

  • Agree!

    By Blogger Pedram, at 11:39 PM, August 28, 2006  

  • I am with u on this. The Forbes article reminded me that gender equality is still an issue in the west, and that we from the middleeast have such a long way to go....

    By Anonymous Persian Architect, at 12:34 AM, August 29, 2006  

  • May I translate this and put it in my Farsi blog? Or at least invite people to participate?

    By Blogger Anar, at 1:09 AM, August 29, 2006  

  • I agree persian architect. Not just in middle-east but also in India (where I am from) and likely also in China.

    Sure Anar. Do you want help with farsi translation? ;)

    By Blogger Vasu, at 9:06 AM, August 29, 2006  

  • I would say, god made men to love and women to be loved. it's the nature of every human being

    Women come from the beauty side of the god and that makes them adorable

    I think any job that makes a woman loose her hapiness, bauty or calmness should be crossed out of the women's career list. we should not mess with the nature. Women are not here to work or even deliver babies they are here to be loved and it's our honor (As men) to have them down here and be pleased to love them.they are gifts from the heavens you never ask a gift to work;)

    I took a design course in my undergarduate studies in that I learned that there is no "human" when you design something but there are "Men" and "Women". when you develop a perfume production line you have to descide which group you are targeting to. even when you are making an airplane, sounds funny but beleive it or not, no airplane in the world has been designed to be flown by a lady ;)

    we live in a messed up world because we have forgetten the aim of the creation.

    [read my comment again, looks more poetical than racional, sorry you can delete it anyways, but I still believe in it]

    By Blogger Siah, at 12:07 AM, August 30, 2006  

  • Totally agreed. and I'm happy to see a man saying this.
    it is important, you know, instead of women always repeating themselves and their rights and "whats really fair", underestand that more men day by day are getting to this point as well.

    I'll add your link to my wall.

    Neda
    http://abovethewall2.blogspot.com/

    By Blogger Neda, at 1:40 AM, August 30, 2006  

  • siah, Most books on eastern philosophy empatically declares what you have said. Love is our nature. That I personally have never been able to comprehend that is another story.

    Thanks for the link neda.

    By Blogger Vasu, at 8:43 AM, August 30, 2006  

  • Siah,

    It is not that if the man asks the woman to work. it's when she wants to work and won't be happy if she doesn't take up a career path which is challenging. what do you think in that case? that she is messing up with nature and shouldn't do it?

    By Blogger Anar, at 10:34 AM, August 30, 2006  

  • Anar,

    If the new career makes her happier she should take it, otherwise she should not do that, especially if it makes her stressed out or makes her not able to take enough care of herself she should definitly not take that

    P.S don't forget carly fiona took over HP and ruined the whole company, and no one sees a catch up for the company at least in the near future , I think the problem was, the job was just against her nature

    but Jeff bezos who is not like a super model is doing great in amazon

    Honestly I think such this dogwork is not for some women (unles they really think that this challenge is making them happier)

    sorry for the probable typo typed that fast

    By Blogger Siah, at 8:49 PM, August 30, 2006  

  • Siah, I think we all seem to be agreeing that a woman who wants to pursue a career (challenging or otherwise) should have the freedom to do so. Whether any given woman wants to do that is not our problem. Just like men take this option (of having a career) for granted, women should also have this option open without having to worry about anything else.

    If a woman (or a man for that matter) does choose a career which seems to be too challenging and if she is rational and not conceited then it should be straightforward to make an adjustment to her career without getting flustered.

    Ultimately women (feminists in particular) are fighting for equality. If we view from their standpoint, they are not looking to be put on a pedestal and worshipped by men but rather they want to be treated as equal - share the same basic rights that a man takes for granted. In this is case we are discussing career that is all. Do you agree?

    By Blogger Vasu, at 9:34 PM, August 30, 2006  

  • Hello Vasu,

    I am here at Anar's request via her blog post. I certainly think that if a woman wants a career, then she should have the freedom to choose that path. However, I have to admit that my own mother postponed her medical career for about 12 years to stay home and take care of myself and my sister. In retrospect, I must say that I am grateful that she was there for me, especially since I had an essentially absent father who worked all the time and took little interest in my life.

    It is hard for me to say what the ideal situation should be. I think that it would be different for each woman or each married couple. These days, some fathers are comfortable staying home and taking care of children. Personally, I think that a child should have a lot of attention from both parents. In fact, I think that a child's wellbeing should come before the parents desires. In the U.S., a lot of children are growing up not seeing much of either of their parents. The kids are put in day care when they are still infants so that both parents can go to work to pay off all the bills that result from the often over extravagant lifestyles that so many Americans think they need to be happy. You know, the happiest people that I ever heard of were a tribe of hunter gatherers that live in the Amazon jungle. The people in that tribe live and work together. The kids are raised by the whole village. The people there don't really care about material posessions, they care about each other. I have to ask, why do we consider their lifestyle primitive? Maybe it is our way of covering up for the fact that we are jealous of their happiness!

    By Blogger David, at 1:46 AM, August 31, 2006  

  • David,
    Thank you for your views.

    It would be perfect (like the tribe you described) if the parents get to work around their children and the children get the attention of both parents. But the problem is most of us do not live in an ideal world.

    For starters, we are sucked into choosing some lifestyle - more often than not the society dictates what this lifestyle should be rather than a person trying to find out what is most suitable for his/her personality. Given our choice, which is heavily influenced by a society, the cost of living in that society is frequently so high that couples (both parents) have to work even to fullfil the "basic" necessities.

    By Blogger Vasu, at 9:36 PM, August 31, 2006  

  • you know what came to my mind today? I thought what if two gay men live with each other? then who do they want to blame for the dirty house? Or what if two women live with each other?

    By Blogger Anar, at 4:08 PM, September 01, 2006  

  • Very interesting discussion. I agree that role-models defined traditionally do not treat women on the same foot as men. I was just thinking today that whenever, I apply for a job or I want to do something challenging, it crosses my mind that I am a woman. Sometimes, I find it an advantage, that since the number of women is less in science, they will consider a bonus for women. But I do not like this thinking, since I believe women should be valued according to their capacities. Some other times, I think, since I am a woman, I should prove that I am as capable of men. Then this question arises in my mind: Would I have to think about my gender if the equality of men and women were not an issue in the society? Would I have thought about my capacity as a woman in social roles, if I had not heard from some of my teachers, relatives and in general society that women are not as capable as men in science and business and after all their entire main role is to be a good mother and wife?

    By Blogger Tamasha, at 6:06 PM, September 15, 2006  

  • Those are good questions Tamasha. I often wonder how much of what we think about ourselves is dictated by what others, particularly those we trust like out parents, friends and teachers, have told us.

    There is no reason why women are not capable of excelling in science and business. If you look at my follow-up post to this post, you will see that the top 20 powerful women list includes business persons and politicians. Madam Curie is a good example of a woman excelling in science.

    I think if we present children (boys and girls) with equal opportunities, without prejudicing any field or profession to a specific gender, then we will begin to see that the distribution of men and women in any given profession will start to converge.

    By Blogger Vasu, at 9:23 PM, October 03, 2006  

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